HV Dragon Preview - Mirumoto Toraizo

[Diabolical SOUND]

The new Crab temptation is a Scout Chain isn't it?  Or is there already a Scout chain?  Suchen confused  .

there is already a scout chain.
surveying the land, what ever the second one is and establishing a foothold.
i think thats the order.
all from STS.

as for the crabs, they are getting their own chain from their temptation, but it isnt necessarily a scout chain.
we wont know that until it comes out.

[Mirumoto Rinjin]

Humm so we get a 3F 3C Tactician Scout with no abilities for 8 gold ... maybe he will be useful in the future, but Scout trait right now is not good for us, and he´s overcosted. He can get some spot in the new stronghold decks, though, but i see him maybe underused. Not 100% sure.

[Kitsuki Shin]

Humm so we get a 3F 3C Tactician Scout with no abilities for 8 gold ... maybe he will be useful in the future, but Scout trait right now is not good for us, and he´s overcosted. He can get some spot in the new stronghold decks, though, but i see him maybe underused. Not 100% sure.

right, he's new box only because he's not ~actually~ a tactician, if he was, he wouldn't be over cost

[Majiy]

Dragon Clan non-Uniuqe Tactician?
In my eyes the our best personality in this set, if played out of the new Stronghold.

Gives good acces to cards like Sup-Strat and especially Unshakable, which are incredibly powerful.

[Kitsuki Shin]

Dragon Clan non-Uniuqe Tactician?
In my eyes the our best personality in this set, if played out of the new Stronghold.

Gives good acces to cards like Sup-Strat and especially Unshakable, which are incredibly powerful.

right, but that's my entire problem, he's only good in the new box. Almost none of the other personalities in this set are that extreme

[Mirumoto Rinjin]

  Even that, we can´t play Superior for just one non-unique and two Uniques we got. He´s overcosted even in the new box imho - but lack of viable choices could still make him in.

  I´m waiting to see other factions previews for knowing if something worthy is coming out of HV for us. Superstars even with zero Dragon support from HV will be better than anything coming from the new box until we get better Personalities with synergy for it, in my opinion. In anyways, i´m looking foward to experiment with this box.

[Toshiro]

a solid peep for the new Stronghold. the Scout trait is just gravy at the moment (since the scout chain sucks so badly), but maybe there is hope in the other clan's previews (Crab? Crane?).

[Togashi Gwydion]

Retribution + Ideal Conditions.  Awww yeah...  Tactician/Scout Blitz sounds like it has some real potential out of the new stronghold.

[Kitsuki Shin]

Retribution + Ideal Conditions.  Awww yeah...  Tactician/Scout Blitz sounds like it has some real potential out of the new stronghold.

This guy doesn't really lend to blitz though, his 8 HR means you either need to pay full for another personality (one you might otherwise pay for reduced) or his GC is actually 2 more. The strongest argument I have seen for this guy so far is the scout trait, but there's about 2 ok scout actions atm which leaves me less than impressed.

That being said, if you want to do some sort of honorable switch out of this, I think he's a great choice, you just aren't likely to see him in any other kind of deck/SH

[Kitsuki Dashin]

I'm already so used to buy at least one guy for full, that I don't see how this guy having an HR matters. You already need extra honor for Kei, Satsu, Aikune (I run him), Ryosaki (if you run her), and I also run Rich Frog, so... I get it, if you want to blitz with him you're gonna have to pay 6G! Is that not possible? Don't even mention you need to play him with the new box for him to make sense... the question is: is there a problem with that? The new box seems to have a lot of potential, in my opinion.

You also need to consider the combinantion potential. If we could run Saya to make dishonor more viable, why can't we run some lion tactician? Well, most of them have a  6HR.

Regarding the scout trait, there're really not so many good scout actions, but there're a few interesting ones. Consider using Find a Way Through It with Kazumasa, and then straightening him after using the box's ability. I happen to like that action, even though I'm suspecting it might have some drawback, since no deck is using it. Someone already mentioned Ideal Conditions. Preparing Stockpiles is also not bad. What's best is that Jairuzu is also much much better out of the new box.

[Mirumoto Rinjin]

I think some Lion tacticians are better than this one. In a Dragon deck, i mean. Will have to check costs but i think i´m right

[Kitsuki Shin]

I'm already so used to buy at least one guy for full, that I don't see how this guy having an HR matters. You already need extra honor for Kei, Satsu, Aikune (I run him), Ryosaki (if you run her), and I also run Rich Frog, so... I get it, if you want to blitz with him you're gonna have to pay 6G! Is that not possible? Don't even mention you need to play him with the new box for him to make sense... the question is: is there a problem with that? The new box seems to have a lot of potential, in my opinion.

You also need to consider the combinantion potential. If we could run Saya to make dishonor more viable, why can't we run some lion tactician? Well, most of them have a  6HR.

Regarding the scout trait, there're really not so many good scout actions, but there're a few interesting ones. Consider using Find a Way Through It with Kazumasa, and then straightening him after using the box's ability. I happen to like that action, even though I'm suspecting it might have some drawback, since no deck is using it. Someone already mentioned Ideal Conditions. Preparing Stockpiles is also not bad. What's best is that Jairuzu is also much much better out of the new box.

oddly, I already liked Jairuzu before this box. He's flexible and a perfect nominee to defend with so you can use Tamori Sugi's ability without throwing Sugi in the battle. But that's really off topic.

[Kitsuki Dashin]

I think some Lion tacticians are better than this one. In a Dragon deck, i mean. Will have to check costs but i think i´m right

The only Lion tactician you could compare cost-wise is Shunori. He's 2/2 for 5G, not a scout, 2PH and not Dragon Clan. You also can't buy him if you don't have 6FH, while you can still buy this one paying 2 more gold. There's also Robun, who's also 2/2 for 6G and 4HR, plus he has an ability.

[Kitsuki Shin]

I think some Lion tacticians are better than this one. In a Dragon deck, i mean. Will have to check costs but i think i´m right

The only Lion tactician you could compare cost-wise is Shunori. He's 2/2 for 5G, not a scout, 2PH and not Dragon Clan. You also can't buy him if you don't have 6FH, while you can still buy this one paying 2 more gold. There's also Robun, who's also 2/2 for 6G and 4HR, plus he has an ability.

right in that comparesin Robun comes out ahead for a blitz deck (even out of this SH). Same GC, off the box HR, Tactician printed and a non-tactical ability. However if there are/where good scout actions out there, then Toraizo might come out ahead.

Mostly for me it's the fact that Tactician trait is conditional, even if he cost 2 more gold and had it printed that would be much better imo. Like I said several times before though, I think he'd be fine as he is if his HR was 5 as well. (I know I've harped on that, but I'm stating it this time as it's relevant to what I just said before that)

I'd like to note I don't think he's trash, I do like him for the small niche he does fit in. but it bothers me how small the niche is

[Kitsuki Dashin]

right in that comparesin Robun comes out ahead for a blitz deck (even out of this SH). Same GC, off the box HR, Tactician printed and a non-tactical ability. However if there are/where good scout actions out there, then Toraizo might come out ahead.

The same GC, but Robun has 2F and our guy has 3F.